A Voice in the
January 30, 1998
Q/A -Testimonies: Christians & Rock Music
Second of all about these heathen drums and the rock music. I am a "baby" Christian, I found God only 6 months ago. Up until that time I was your typical 23 year old radical rebel! I have two small children and used to indulge in the "heavy metal". Such bands as "Slayer" and "Death Angel" being at the top of my favorites. I am standing on firm ground now...you know what you are speaking! Even if other's disagree or are in denial! I would be feeling wonderful and joyful one minute and the next (after listening to my hard-core music) angry and hostile....ready to go to the bar and be in a fight! It seemd to creep outward from deep within the center of my being. It would slowly wash over me completely. As I still keep in touch with my "old crowd" just to let them know I did not forget them, I clearly see it working on them. (this type of music being all to them!) They turn hostile,they're words turning more and more vulgar and finally I see them beginning to turn violent on each other! All I can do for them at this point is pray for them (I am not a strong witness as of date and quite weak in the areas of "not partying with them"),which is also one of the best things to do.
So, praise God! You are doing a wonderful job!! I was not going to write on this subject, I was going to let it pass, but this morning when I read some of the things folks are saying about this...well...I had to say "thank you". And let you know how right you are. Take it from someone who has been there! ( I was raised a "so called pagan",it being passed down from generation to generation, and worse than your average deliquent teenager!) SO today I will say a prayer of thanks for the work you are able to do and praise God the way I know how...with the SIMPLE beautiful music of my flute! THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN!
Unsaved spouse's "christian" Rock:
Excerpts from a letter:
You're bound to get someone riled up somewhere. :)
There were a few things I found rather interesting...but I can tell you... There is a very definitive change in the atmosphere and the children's behavior when [husband] has his music on. It is immediate and only escalates the longer it's on... I hate long drives because most generally we listen to his music. I do lots of praying... it truly often feels like "battle" in my heart. Around [home] it's not quite as bad because he wears a headset, but then it's *his* behavior which is changed... At one point a long while ago, I'd gotten him some "christian" hard-rock stuff... I thought, for one, maybe he'd listen to it and actually "gain" something (ha) from it.. that it at least couldn't be "as" bad as secular rock... wrong... it had the exact same effects. There was no difference. It grates on the spirit...
Music and Doctrine:
One of the comments you made reminded me of a situation in a Church I attended some years ago. At that time there was a "song" which was taken from Scripture and which was "Top of the pops." Every song leader in the Church included this song in his/her song orders and the Church sang it with enthusiasm. It had a "rocky" beat and was a catchy tune and everyone loved it.
However, no-one had bothered to check the references for the words which were taken from Joel Chapter 2 (Joel 2:1 NKJV) Blow the trumpet in Zion, And sound an alarm in My holy mountain! Let all the inhabitants of the land tremble; For the day of the LORD is coming, For it is at hand: On the surface, looking at this verse alone, it looks good and, as I said, the people loved to sing it. That is, until one man decided to look into the context of this verse and found that this song is actually warning Israel of God's judgement to come!
It reminds me of another Voice in which you said we should be careful about singing songs begging God to "set my soul on fire"
Yes, songs should be based on Scripture and filled with God's word, but song writers must be very careful to watch that they are not bringing false doctrine into the church through their "inspirational music."
Closing Editorial: Source of Rock Music
Not to prolong this topic publicly...but there is one further experience that should be shared, which may give further insight as to the "source" of Rock. There wasn't "room" in the commentary (which also got printed for mailing)..but, perhaps we can close the topic with this.
About 9-10 years ago I worked at a place where this 19 year old kid also worked. He would bring his CD's of Led Zeppelin, AC/DC, KISS, etc. His work station was close enough to mine, that one day the noise so irritated me as to give me a migraine the likes of which I hadn't had in ages. But that is not the point of this...
The kid had a sister, whose boyfriend worked for a company who purchased "our" product for their manufacturing process...and he would often come to take delivery. He as well as the "kid" were into black, leather, etc.
The first time I saw this person, we had never met previously, obviously. As I was at my station, minding my own business, working...I happened to look in his direction, as his gaze was in mine. And the whole cornea area of his eyes were "flaming fire red." I looked away, and back again...and they were "now" normal. As I contemplated what I "thought" I had seen, hardly beliving it, I also looked around for some light "source" that might have "reflected" in his eyes...like, perhaps an overhead heater, or something; just to be sure I was seeing what my spirit told me I was seeing..that there wasn't some "natural explanation" for it. Nothing. About 5-10 minutes later, as if for confirmation, our eyes met again, and again..."flaming fire red."
As I considered the matter, a few days later I got out the Led Zeppelin LP I had bought a few years earlier at a rummage-type sale, to test the "Stairway to Heaven" for "backwards masking" that some people were claiming was there. Put it on the machine and cued up the first cut, "Black Dog." And there I found the answer. Some of the words I could understand...
"..gonna make you burn, gonna make you stay.." "Got flamin' heart, can't get my fill.." "Eyes that shine, a burnin' red, dreams of you are through my head.."
Now, for those who insist there is no correlation between "jungle drums" and Rock, a person should realize that Jimmy Page, who produced the "Stairway to Heaven" album, and I believe was their drummer, was also the composer/compiler of the music for the '96 Olympics "Opening Ceremonies" ...the NewAge pagan worship time which featured "jungle drumming" with accompanying demon costumes and dancing for the "tribes of the world."
By the way... I tested the "Stairway to Heaven" for backwards masking. Copied it onto R-to-R tape, played it backward and forward, speeded up and slowed down. 'Could not find what they were talking about, other than with a greatly enhanced sense of "imagination." However, the place on the cut where the "mask" is supposed to be saying "satan, satan, my sweet satan" is rather revealing with the album running forward, at regular speed. "...Yes there are two paths you can go by. But in the long run there's still time to change the road you're on..."
The basic theme of "Stairway to Heaven" is of a person seeking their "way." "She wants to be sure cause you know sometimes words have two meanings." But if we all get united, "then the piper will lead us to reason, and a new day will dawn.." And the way is one's own private one in that if we listen closely, "[your] stairway lies on the whispering wind." But you've gotta listen hard because then "the tune will come to you at last when all are one and one is all.."
This is the "unity" which the world is clamoring for. But you see, how it comes from the Pied Piper, Satan. He gets the world to try to "reason" out his destiny. Whereas the "world through wisdom did not know God."(1Cor1:21)
"Yes there are two paths you can go by." One leads to destruction, and the other to eternal life.(Mt7:13-14) But the lie the world believes is, "I can always change my mind later." But God is not slack (2Pt3:9) and judgment WILL come. If a person is going to repent, "now..today" is the time to do so (2Cor6:2), because a time will come when God says, "..the time is at hand. "He who is unjust, let him be unjust still; he who is filthy, let him be filthy still; he who is righteous, let him be righteous still; he who is holy, let him be holy still." (Rev22:10-11) And each will be judged accordingly.
The tempter would have you believe that "all paths lead to heaven." That you can choose your own path ("stairway") to get there. But Jesus says, "No one comes to the Father except through Me."(Jn14:6) "Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name [than Jesus] under heaven given among men by which we must be saved." (Acts4:12)
Dear Christian, do you ever wonder about those times when your gaze "meets" with a total stranger; and you sense this "intense hatred" from the other person for no apparent reason? Or those times in traffic where it seems like everybody is "out to get you?" Perhaps, if you look at the drivers, you notice the fellows sporting a "devil goatee" or they are wearing "black" ...but they don't really seem to "notice" you.
Do not forget the "spiritual warfare" that rages. (Eph6:12) You have the Holy Spirit residing in you. (Rom8:9) They are of their "father the devil, and the desires of [their] father [they] want to do."(Jn8:44) And, we can be sure that the Holy Spirit and our "ministering angels"(Heb1:14) are in struggles with the demons at a level that we cannot physically see. So, they are not glaring "at us"; but it is their demon in animosity against the Holy Spirit Who dwells in us.
Seeing the "fire red" eyes that day at work, and then hearing the words from "Black Dog" brought a sense of "reach-out-and-tough-it" reality to my awareness of the spiritual struggles.
What do we do when confronted with such incidents? Remember, we are in Satan's territory right now.(Lk4:6) We are surrounded by lions & vipers, that would seek to reach out and bite us. Don't attack them. Just let them be. Let God and His hosts deal with them.(Jude1:9) But do make sure your "armor" is on, "having done all, to stand."(Eph6:13)