A Voice in the
November 27, 2005
the Cross is pagan?
Notice that the Hebrew Tav looks nothing like a "t" or cross. In fact, both the Tav and Omega have the over-covering appearance to them, with an 'opening' at the bottom...the Tav being more square-looking, and the Omega being the traditional round 'horseshoe' appearance. The "tau" that looks like a "t" is in the -middle- of the -Greek- alphabet (not Hebrew). The greek "tau" is not the same as the Hebrew "tav/tau"... It is not the "end".
(Note: with the Hebrew chart you begin at the upper right, read left, go to the next line to the right, and read left...thus, Tav is at the lower-left; in 'eastern' way of writing, that is the 'end' of the chart)
Also, beware of that pawcreek site...when I clicked on their "statement of faith" they state plainly (they don't bother to hide it like some do) that their beliefs line up with pentecostalism/charismania: they believe the Holy Spirit comes 'after' salvation, not as an integral part (Eph1:13,Rom8:9) ....not to mention the charismatic gifts of healing and such. Beyond that, I didn't read any of their other postings....their 'statement' was enough.
But that the cross is a pagan symbol.... go to Google and search with the words "cross pagan" and you'll come up with tons of stuff. Here's a sampling:
Disclaimer: Inclusion of these links does not mean VW endorses everything you will read at these sites. Glean from the facts they present, but don't necessarily draw their same conclusions.
But, that Jesus died on one is also not negated by that fact. If the Jews had killed Him, the method would have been by stoning; as they tried to do on a few occasions. (Jn8:59,10:31) But Jesus was 'executed' by Rome, the pagan occupying nation; the global power of the day. When Jesus took on the form of a "servant" (Php2:7-8), His death was the lowliest form possible in those days. Imagine, a Jew dying on a 'pagan' instrument.
Again, as we keep saying.... and if we wish to do things -God's- way, not following paganism: Jesus did not institute the "sign of the cross"! He established the "new covenant" in His blood: the Bread and Cup. (Mt26:28, Mk14:24, Lk22:20, 1Co11:25)
Just to be clear, as the (above) links explain... paganism worships Tammuz with the ancient "Tau" (cross) symbol. But Jesus closes the Scriptures, -clearly- identifying Himself as someone -different- than that paganism. He is the "Beginning and Ending" the "First and Last" the "Alpha and Omega". Notice that John, a Jew, does not record Jesus using the Hebrew "Aleph and Tav". Just wondering: Is that so that there would not be any confusing of the Hebrew "Tav" (last) with the (pagan) "Tau" (in the middle of the greek and prior alphabets...not to mention that which is beyond the scope of this present discussion: the Grk "chi" letter, which looks like a crooked X or cross, alleged by many to have been a symbol for "Christ")?
Jesus is -NOT- the 'child' of the pagan Isis/Horus (madonna/child) depictions and veneration. He is the I AM (Jn8:58), the Creator of the heavens, earth and life (Jn1:3-4), in whom "all things consist" (Col1:17)
He is the one who says, "...behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to what his work shall be." (Rev22:12)
To those who continue to lust after the pagan symbol of the cross, looking for excuses as to why it is okay and 'good', so they can feel justified, warm-n-fuzzy, and 'pious' when they wear it and decorate their environments with it:
It is idolatry! It is time for you to... WAKE UP!
When God condemned Israel for "weeping for Tammuz" (Ezk8:14), was He thus condoning the veneration of Tammuz's symbol, the "Tau" cross?? The Jews of Jesus' day tried this sort of reasoning with other things related to swearing oaths; that the temple and the temple's gold were somehow different; or that there was a difference between the animal being sacrificed vs the altar on which it was offered; and He proclaimed: "Therefore he who swears by the altar, swears by it and by all things on it. He who swears by the temple, swears by it and by Him who dwells in it. And he who swears by Heaven, swears by the throne of God and by Him who sits on it." (Mt23:20-22)
If Jesus, who died on the cross, (but instituted the bread and cup for Himself) said that: is He, thus, condoning the "sign of the cross", even though Tammuz was/is a pagan deity? Don't worship Tammuz, but it's OK to venerate his symbol, the (Tau,"T") cross..??
C'mon... WAKE UP!
follow-up: Ezekiel's 'mark'?
And....WHO CARES what Origen or Tertullian said??? Their writings are as meaningful as those of Luther and Calvin; or Benny Hinn, Rick Warren and Paul Crouch.
What does the -SCRIPTURE- say?
The Lord said to put a mark on those "who sigh and cry over all the abominations that are done within it." But the passage does not tell us it was a "T". That sort of suggestion is mere speculation by various authors with various agendas and axes to grind. People are soooo enamoured by paganism's symbols that they will "twist to their own destruction" (2Pe3:16) anything they can lay their hands on, in order to "excuse" their pagan lusts. They sooooo -WANT- those pagan symbols, that they will turn facts and history upside down and inside out, and then attach their convoluted conclusions to make the Scriptures say things, as a result, that God did not say. Ezk9:4 doesn't say it WAS a "T", nor does it say it was NOT. It, simply, does not say 'what' it was. To make any such assumption is to 'add' to God's Word something He did not include in the passage. And I don't care -how- historically 'famous' the scholar is who might pontificate on the matter....the Scripture DOES NOT SAY.... ...Period...
According to Revelation we also know the antichrist will require a "mark". But again, the Scriptures do not specify 'what' that mark is. We know there is a relationship to "666". But again, Scripture does not spell that out, either. Today we see Babylon's marks on the foreheads of both the cross (smudge), and round dots (India), and other such marks in various cultures. They are not all a "T". And with today's commerce technology many are speculating the mark is a sub-dermal 'chip' or scanable tattoo. Until the antichrist is "unveiled" (2Th2:3,6,8) and it comes to pass, any suggestion is mere conjecture.