March 23, 1997
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- False Prophet Gauges
I was wondering what your thoughts were on cloning men. I feel they
should not do it. Too much tinkering with God's business. But there has
been a lot on t.v. in discussions with pastors of all faiths about
this. They are all asked, would a clone have a soul? What do you think?
Jesus said "as it was in the days of Noah....so will it be in the days
of the coming of the Son of Man" In the days of Noah there was a great
perversion regarding procreation. A mixture of earthly and spiritual
beings. And if mythology has any basis in fact as is usually the case,
who knows what kind of creatures were compiled genetically. And it
says about Noah that he was "perfect in his generations." In other
words, his family's gene pool hadn't been corrupted. but "the
earth..indeed it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted their way on
the earth." (Gen6:9,12) And "this" is why God destroyed the earth with
the flood. God had created things to reproduce "after their kind."(Gen
Regarding "souls" I don't know enough about the matter. And I don't
know that Scripture teaches all that much about it. If the clone is
totally human, I don't know why it wouldn't have a soul like anybody
else...after all, we all started out as single cells. And, just as
"identical" twins are not totally identical by the time they grow up
and develope their unique personalities, I would think clones would
also be individually unique in the same way.
But, as for the "rightness" of it all. I shudder to think of where it
all could go and end up! Just another in a series of "signs" of our
Lord's imminent return.
False Prophet Gauge:
Praise Him, the true Christ, our Lord and Savior. I really enjoyed this
Amen! Amen and Amen ie TBN and some others Keep up the good work,
enjoy your page very much
Amen! Good piece!
I just had to comment on the above. If there ever was a time when we
need to know what God's Word teaches it is now (in these latter days).
For if we don't have an understanding of the Word of God, we can be
drawn into any one of many many false doctrines. A couple of years ago
our church "study material for Sunday nights" was geared to teach us
about different cults and what each one teaches. I had a little problem
with that idea, because I take the position that we need to be studying
God's Word, then when we run onto any thing that differs from what the
bible teaches, we will know straight off that it is not of God, but the
devil. I really appreciate your wise council in "False Prophet gauge".
It is said, in training money handlers to identify counterfeit money,
the trainees are enveloped in "real" money. To handle, feel, smell,
etc....the "real stuff." Then, when the counterfeit appears, it is
I have worked in the past in electronics assembly and QA. When a person
is looking at the same PCB's all day long, even as small as the traces
may be, when a solder bridge, cold solder joint, missing part, parts
inserted wrong...are there, they are "easy" to spot.
Thanks for the good note.
Praise be to God for your effort to enlighten your fellow followers in
Christ. I know that you get many many e-mails about the NKJV vs. KJV
and that most would attack you in the worst way that is not very
Actually...not as much as you might think. The worst flack has been
when I've requested a KJV-only site to link to VW.
I am ,by choice and conviction and study, a KJV only person. Just you
as have said that you took a long time to come to your view of the Word
of God, so have I. We do not and will not ever have the original
manuscripts to check out which translation is the correct. Remember
what the Bareians did when Paul brought the Salvation through Christ to
them. they went and checked the Scriptures. Did they have the
originals that Moses had? Or the the originals that King Saul or King
David had? I think not. They had copies. Just as we do today. The
only real meaningful difference is that when the Hebrew copied the Word
of God it was done in such a way as to make sure there were no
mistakes. the very words on the paper were God. today we say it does
not really matter which word we use as long as the meaning is carried
through. We as "greeks" have lost that the thought and conviction the
very words are God. (John 1:1) Jesus combated and defeated satan with
the Scripture. in response satan tried but missed by only one word,
the passage had lost all its power. So how many wrong words does it
take to make it not God's. As you are I am also, not good enough of
a greek or hebrew scholar to do my own translation. I must put my
trust in the Holy Spirit to lead me to the meaning and understanding of
the Word of God. We both can find word comparisons that will "help"
our own convictions about the certain words or phrases.
that did the KJV translation were better in there greek and hebrew than
either of us are. Which one of the translators of the NKJV would you
trust in such a way? In your search for understanding of the
translations did you check out the men that did the translations and
how they worked with each other. Try looking at there and see if there
is a difference between the KJV translators and the NKJV translators.
It took me 3 years of research before I was KJV only.
You know...I agree with everything you said, up to "this" last
paragraph. And reading your words here, which is essentially a
paraphrase of what most KJV-only people will say, "this-time-around"
made me realize what's wrong with this whole line of thinking.
Why do we look to the "men" at all? And, if we look at the men, claimed
to be such spiritual "men of God" and such "emminent scholars" ...it
makes what they did even more unforgiveable; since they did so
"knowingly." (Just 3 examples)
Also, on another note. You do so correctly, stating that I am not a
Hebrew/Greek scholar. But I use the tools to the best of my abilities.
You must realize that I grew up as a child/youth in a KJV-only
environment. In this environment, countless were the times that the
pastor/teacher would dissect word meanings for us, taking us back to
the Hebrew or Greek, telling us, "this KJV word, 'in the original'
ACTUALLY MEANS 'XYZ' "
- They made the KJV "to the most high and mighty Prince James"
- Translated "Jacob" into "James" (same name as the "prince")
- TransLITERATED the word "baptize" because of the "prince's"
church's doctrine. Thus, perverting the doctrine of baptism
for generations to come.
Well, guess what? The NKJV uses those words which the KJV-only teachers
would direct us to as being the "more accurate" word for the given
passage. So, that being the case...why not read the "correct words"
in the first place?
Since there are no study tools for NKJV like there are for KJV, my word
studies are done with KJV tools, which are Textus Receptus-based.
Again, Guess what? Using the KJV-Tools, the NKJV is 99% closer to the
"originals" than the KJV is.(In these comparisons all the other
translations and their tools don't even enter the picture...I don't use
them!) This is why I use NKJV. If these studies showed me that KJV was
more accurate, I would use KJV...but they just simple don't. [Link: VW & Translations]
So, getting back to "men" ...if such "scholars" could be less than
perfect, in many cases..."purposely" so...and modern translators are no
better; this is quite a testament to God's Sovereignty isn't it. In
spite of frail man, He has seen to it that we have His Word, preserved,
for those with pure hearts willing to accept it.
This letter is not to put you down or to give you a hard time. I am
happy the God has led you to the creation of this web site and that He
will lead you on to KJV only. For it is by the very words of God that
we are saved and His word will endure when all else is gone.
No, not at all. Your spirit is QUITE different from most of the
KJV-only "pharisees."(smile) And, yes, down to the dotted "i" and
crossed "t" God's Word will endure and be fulfilled.(Mt5:18)
Thanks for your good note.
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