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June 16, 2005

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Christian "activism" against Bible abuse? (re: Koran or Bible)

The problem is that we Americans are not informed of these mishandlings of the Bible. We have no centralized areas where these things can be reported to.. We also have no way of dispersing the information to the Christian public until long periods of time have passed. When we do hear it, most feel that it is too late to protest. The next time that they occupy a religious building or desecrate the Bible, we sould react. If we can protest against abortion and other thing we certainly could do this. It is time.

As you have shown the majority of American (c)hristians are not really Christians, so we do not have the "majority" we think we do. That scare people. The majority of American are pacifists and do not usually want to single themselves out. American because they have nerve had to deal with any persecution like other countries seldom care unless the issue personally affects them physically or financially.

The remnant of real Christians are not at all organized. Christians tend to want to go to church and be at peace. As Christians we are not militant at heart but we should be when the things of God are so violated. I think sites like yours are useful because they do inform us. Any suggestions on how to organize so we can produce "Christian reactions"

We've spoken on this topic at various times in the past. At the website the first such commentary was in 1995 regarding Paul Hill; and there have been others since.

When Jesus faced Pilate He made this statement: "My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so that I should not be delivered to the Jews; but now My kingdom is not from here." (Jn18:36)

When Jesus was being taken, Peter pulls out his sword and begins whacking away. Jesus tells him to "Put your sword in its place, for all who take the sword will perish by the sword." (Mt26:52) and also: "Shall I not drink the cup which My Father has given Me?" (Jn18:11)

One thing that I think many Christians tend to forget is that we are not the ones in charge here. Like the song says, "This world is not my home, I'm just a-passin' through, My treasures are laid up somewhere beyond the blue....and I don't feel at home in this world anymore" The Jews wanted Jesus to take (political) sides, and He replies, "Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar‘s, and to God the things that are God‘s." (Mt22:21) That is true "separation of church and state". The US Constitution does not proclaim "separation of church and state", as the atheistic leftist liberals claim; But for the True Christian, Scripture does. The Christian's "citizenship is in Heaven" (Php3:20) While we know that God is in control of all things, and that the "authorities that exist are ordained by God" (Rom13:1); the authorities He has ordained for right now are the dragon and Babylon. (Lk4:6) They are the "world's rulers of the darkness of this age" (Eph6:12)

It's like as if: the world is the kingdom of 'cats', and Christians are the 'birds'. Do the birds go up to the cats and peck them on the nose, without the risk of getting claw-swiped? (as Jesus said to Peter, taking the sword and perishing by the sword) Sure, birds will sit around on the fences and telephone wires, chirping and squawking at each other, warning of the cat's presence. But in most cases, if a cat and sparrow or robin were to face off against each other, the cat is going to win every time. If the cat climbs up to the nest and takes away the young for its meal, there is not anything the birds can do to prevent it. The only rescue to the birds in such a case is when the person steps out their back door and 'hisses' at the cat; the cat goes scampering away.

Ducks 'quack'. Instinctively. That's what ducks do. If you were to go up to a duck and start yelling at it to "STOP QUACKING", and started throwing things at it, all you're going to accomplish and elicite from it, is MORE QUACKING. Same with dogs... their barking will become vicious snarling. Like the old adage: "Let the sleeping dog lie"

Like Paul also said: "If it is possible, as for yourself, be at peace with all men." (Rom12:18)

Like we noted in the Paul Hill case....abortion doctors perform abortions, and "caesar" has told them that they can do so legally. God's Law calls it "murder". But Christians are "aliens" and "sojourners" on this earth. (1Pet2:11) We don't have 'jurisdiction' to take into our own hands the meting out of God's justice against them. It is not yet 'time' for that, because "caesar" is presently ordained as the world's ruler. But in due time, 'Christ' (not us) -WILL- judge, and justice -will- be served.

"Of the increase of His government and peace upon the throne of David there will be no end; and upon His kingdom, to order it and to establish it with judgment and with justice from now on, even forever. The zeal of Jehovah of Hosts will accomplish this." (Is9:7)

He -WILL- accomplish this. But that time is not yet 'now'.

If it is an outrage that they desecrate the pages of the Bible, well, was it not equally an outrage when they abused Jesus on the occasion of His crucifixion? But did He set up a mob to protest and file suit? No. It says, "I gave My back to those who strike, and My cheeks to those who pluck; I hid not My face from shame and spitting." (Is50:6) Far from "organizing" a protest, Jesus' disciples "fled" (Mt26:56) and hid behind locked doors. (Jn20:19) And when persecution arose, the disciples did not stand up, take up arms and fight; but as Jesus commanded, they fled into other cities, preaching the gospel. (Ac8:4, Mt10:23)

Many people, in lack of understanding, praise the post-reformation warfare that happened between the Protestants and Catholics...not properly understanding that -neither- side was of God. They praise the writings of those men of that era that they have labeled as "church fathers" and "great" men. They seem to have missed God's praise of those "of whom the world was not worthy" who "...wandered in deserts and mountains, in dens and caves of the earth" due to fleeing and enduring persecution, who also 'gave' themselves to the stonings, sawings, floggings, etc. (Heb11:38)

For Muslims or Catholics to desecrate the Scriptures...it is not unexpected. That's what unbelievers do...every bit as much as for those who produce abominable translations to do what they do, perverting God's Word. Like the latest one I've been reading about lately that makes God feminine, and God's Son into a 'daughter', "Judith Christ".

That commentary was not a "call-to-arms" to political activism. But an 'expose' of their "works of darkness". (Eph5:11) It is not ours to 'defend' God; He is -more- than capable of that, Himself; as He will "[take] His great power" (Rev11:17) ....and His vengeance and wrath will be seen....fairly soon, now!


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