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" If My People Will... "
    "..if My people who have been called by My name will humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from the heavens, and will forgive their sin and heal their land." (2Ch7:14)
This verse has, in recent years, been so used and abused, to promote all sorts of agendas, philosophies, theologies, and revisionist history. Many preachers in America, claiming to be christians, as they seek to 'christianize' the United States from their pulpits, seem to be of the opinion that God said this -to- 'this' country. Totally ignoring the -facts- that this nation was founded by a bunch of FreeMasons, and that the capitol is designed and constructed around Masonic astrological specifications; they preach that the nation was founded as a "christian nation"; and so they seek to restore it to its "christian roots". They think that following this verse will be the first step toward that end.

There was a quote I read the other day, that I cannot now lay my fingers on, from one of the 'founding fathers', with words -equating- a person's faith in God, to this nation's alleged roots in theocracy. And so today's preachers use such quotes as PROOF that the founding fathers were [C]hristians. But they were no more [C]hristian than today's lying politicians who close their speeches with "God bless America". Like the old Negro spiritual that says, "Everybody talkin' 'bout Heaven ain't goin' there" Most of those claiming to be "christian" are not [C]hristian. As Paul said of Israel,

    "For not all those of Israel (nationally) are Israel (spiritually)" (Rom9:6b)
There was one quote in Lynn Stuter's 12/23/09 (NewsWithViews.com) article from John Adams, about the Constitution:
    It (the constitution) "was written for a moral and religious people; being wholly inadequate for people who have no morals, no conscience and certainly no principles or standards; who believe right and wrong are situational, pliant to whatever their agenda is."
What Adams said about the Constitution and how people adhere to it is somewhat like the Bible, and how people obey or disobey it (and God).

To whom was this opening verse said? Solomon had just dedicated the new temple, and so God then appears to him in a dream. Solomon had prayed, asking God to 'hear' the prayers of God's penitent ones when they would have sinned, and then turn towards the temple (representative of God's presence) in repentance. (2Ch6:36-39) And so God responds,

    "When I shut up the heavens and there is no rain, or command the locusts to devour the land, or send pestilence among My people," (vs13)
In other words, when Israel, God's people, would sin and bring upon themselves famine and pestilence, if Israel, God's people, would repent, then God was promising to restore them out of their troubles.

The money in this country all says, "In God we trust". But -which- god is that? Is it Allah (as our current president has announced to the world that we are allegedly a Muslim nation), Isis, the great spirit (according to the native traditions of this continent), Queen of Heaven, Buddha, Gaea; or as AA 12-step says: How does America "perceive" him to be?

It certainly is -NOT- Jehovah Most High! He sent His Son, Jesus Christ; but by judicial and legislative diktat His 10-Commandments are removed from public display, commemorative manger scenes are not allow in public places, nor are school children allowed to have a Bible sitting on their desks where (Gasp!) somebody else might -see- it 'sitting' there, and be 'offended'! Thus, it is clear that this country has (officially) REJECTED the Most High God. So... in 'which' -god- do they trust? This country does not 'fit' the verse.

God is not able to say of this nation, "My people". Because it is not; and historically never has been.

But supposing, for the sake of argument, it could be said that this nation -is- "God's people", how does God continue? Talk of -HUMILITY-?

    "...humble themselves..."
Are you kidding me!? For nearly 20 years I've been hearing the expression, "I was humbled", or "I am humbled" The first place I started hearing it was in the local Spokane area pastor's Thursday morning prayer meetings. (It's been so many years, do they still hold those meetings? I've "come out" Rev18:4 since those days) But some pastor would have been to some national convention someplace, and had people at the convention say good things about the state of the church in Spokane, things of which they were now -bragging- to the group, but couch the bragging with the words, "I was humbled..." to have such things said to me, about us.

Now, one hears the expression at every turn. Some athlete gets some honor, or politician receives praise...and on the news cameras they are recorded saying how the experience has "humbled" them.


Inside they are brimming with pride, about ready to burst. That athlete that is now 'humbled' before the cameras? Just a few short minutes ago was high-fiving, fist-bumping, chest-bumping, hugging, and being lifted up on the shoulders of the team-mates, as they were yelling out with self-congratulatory praises, receiving with -joy- and -PRIDE- the accolades of the fans. Now, suddenly, they are "humbled"??? Who are they kidding!?

Why... the day this article was roughed in (these articles typically get roughed in one day, and tweaked a couple more, before being ready for mailing and posting), that evening's NBC news told of this southern regiment that was in Wisconsin for special training, and when X-mass time came they were given leave, but the government was not providing travel fare to go home to one of the southern states; so their local community organized and raised funds to bring their troops home for the holidays. One of the men leading the effort on TV camera said: "We are all sooo proud.... humbled...." that they had successfully raised the money.

It was quite obvious from his excitement that they were, truly, "proud". They were pumped up. But... a second thought... drop that chest a bit... silence... "humbled". It is -said- that 'humility' is a virtue. So, if I -say- so about myself, it is true. Well... not really! Not in the true heart of hearts. The thing that gets -blurted- out is usually the truth of one's heart...

    "For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks." (Mt12:34)
And again...
    "These people draw near to Me with their mouth, and honor Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me." (Mt15:8)
No! The people of this nation know next-to-nothing of humility. People are taught, from youth, to "be proud of yourself". They are praised, "I'm proud of you!" And like I heard some celebrity on one of the TV news shows recently, saying how she was learning to "forgive herself a lot" for the wrongs she had committed against many different people, as she was all smiles, -proudly- appearing before the cameras.

Pray? People of this generation certainly 'pray' a lot. Oprah prays. Charismatics pray. Yoga and meditation is all about 'praying'. But it has nothing to do with the Most High.

    "Behold, Jehovah’s hand is not shortened, that it cannot save; nor is His ear heavy, that it cannot hear. But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hidden His face from you, that He will not hear." (Is59:1-2)
As this nation is reaching the precipice of what many are calling its demise, of what use are its prayers?
    "And it will be when you shall say, Why does Jehovah our God do all these things to us? then you shall answer them, Just as you have forsaken Me and served foreign gods in your land, so you shall serve strangers in a land that is not yours." (Jer5:19)

    "So I have also made you despised and low before all the people, just as you have not kept My ways, but have shown partiality in the Law." (Mal2:9)

If prayer is to be made to Jehovah God, by a wicked people, mere -words- and -meditation- are meaningless, if not accompanied by -REPENTANCE-; that is... -TURNING- AWAY FROM sin and wickedness.

But this prayer and repentance must be before the -right- God. Not any ol' god will do!!!

    "O Israel, return to Jehovah your God, for you have stumbled by your iniquity. Take words with you and return to Jehovah. Say to Him, Take away all iniquity and receive us with grace, that we may repay with the calves of our lips. Assyria shall not save us; we will not ride on horses. We shall not say any more to the work of our hands, You are our gods! For in You the fatherless finds mercy." (Ho14:1-3)
This was said to Israel, God's people. But what of the United States of America? Instead of deeming displays and mentions of God as "hate speech" and "offensive" (Ga5:11) to those of other viewpoints, a national proclamation needs to be made similar to what Nebuchadnezzar did in Babylon...
    "Nebuchadnezzar spoke and said, Blessed be the God of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, who has sent His Angel and has delivered His servants who trusted in Him, and have changed the king’s words, and have given their bodies that they might not serve nor prostrate themselves before any god except their own God." (Dan3:28)
But what did George Bush proclaim to the nation after a national tragedy? Continue doing as you have been doing. Continue being the same people you have been. Don't change (repent) a thing!

When Nebuchadnezzar, himself, met God...

    "Nebuchadnezzar the king to all the peoples, nations, and tongues that dwell in all the earth: Peace be multiplied to you. It seemed good for me to declare the signs and wonders that the Most High God has done with me. How great are His signs! And how mighty are His wonders! His kingdom is an eternal kingdom, and His dominion is from generation to generation...

    "Now I, Nebuchadnezzar, praise and exalt and honor the King of Heaven, for all His works are truth, and His ways are justice. And He is able to humble those who walk in pride." (Dan4:1-3,37)

But in America, even that which calls itself "God's people" is defunct. Most of what calls itself "church" is NOT the [C]hurch of Jesus Christ; the "church of the living God" (1Ti3:15)

Most of the Jews in Babylon were not discernable as being God's people; that's why they were in captivity in the first place. Out of all of Babylon's population, and the numbers of Israel mixed among them, it was the "few" (Mt7:14), Hananiah, Mishael and Azariah who put their own lives on the line before Nebuchadnezzar. (Dan3) And 'lone' Daniel before Darius. (Dan6)

The days before Jesus comes are called the days like the "days of Noah" and the "days of Lot". Noah certainly headed a family of eight people, but how soon after the flood did Nimrod establish the Babylon religion. Peter says that Noah was "-one- of eight" (2Pt2:5) In other words, out of all the world, actually -only- 'Noah' was righteous. His family was preserved due to their untainted genetics. (Gen6:9) Out of Lot's family, his wife lusted after Sodom and was destroyed. After they escaped, Lot's two daughters got him drunk and committed incest with him; which became the fathers of two Godless nations, Moab and Ammon. In both cases, 'lone' -individuals- who were righteous before God, in a world full of wickedness.

There are subscribers who write periodically, expressing how their own spirits are utterly 'sick' due to the world they find themselves in, and what goes on around them. As Peter says of Lot,

    "for that righteous man, dwelling among them, his righteous soul was tormented from day to day by seeing and hearing their lawless deeds" (2Pt2:8)
No... this verse is NOT for America. The US is NOT a nation of Christians. It is full of heathen-ness and paganism. This nation is NOT God's "people".

Supposing we wish to speak of the church? The nominal church in this nation is also NOT God's "people". Some of the non-Babylonish denominations have a history of having been God's people. But like Sardis, they "have a name that [they] live, but are dead" (Re3:1) Some others that have a historical past "have fallen" and their lampstand has been removed. (Rev2:5) Some are poor and worldly, but boast in their self-presumed prideful riches and are ready to be puked out. (Re3:16)

Now if these, called "church", are Dead, Removed, Vomited... are those not the definitions of NOT BELONGING to God! One definition of the Believer is one who is "-ALIVE- together with [Christ]" (Col2:13) When we were saved we were "made...-ALIVE- together with Christ" (Eph2:5)

For all that happened during Nebuchadnezzar's reign, and it appears from Daniel ch4 that he was converted, and became a True Believer; Babylon still came to an end, judged, taken over by Medo-Persia.

This nation's demise seems imminent, as historical time typically progresses. There are some preachers extending the call for more preachers to join what they call the "black regiment"; historically, preachers who wore black robes, and were strong leaders for the national political cause.

But God's call is to His own people. He says to Solomon, "If My people..." Of the nations of the world, their fate is already sealed since prophecy-past. Soon the King of kings and Lord of lords will come to conquer and make them all -His- kingdoms. (Re11:15)

And to His own He issues the clarion call:

    "Come out of her, my people, so that you not share in her sins, and so that you not receive of her plagues. For her sins have reached to Heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities." (Rev18:4-5)
There is a song that used to be sung in Sunday School years ago:
    Dare to be a Daniel, dare to stand alone
    Dare to have a purpose firm, dare to make it known
Dear Believer:
Are you of the sort to be honored in the ranks of Daniel, Hananiah, Mishael and Azariah? (Da1:6) Certainly, they were assigned places of leadership in Babylon's politics. But they first put their lives on the line for God. And Daniel was called "greatly beloved" (Dan9:23,10:11,19)
    "For whoever desires to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it." (Mt16:25)
To the "greatly beloved", Daniel was encouraged:
    "..do not fear. Peace to you. Be strong. Yea, be strong!" (10:19)
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